He owns Instagram and its success is Meta’s and Zuckerberg’s success. But the CEO doesn’t always seem to act that way.

The Meta chief executive testified in a landmark antitrust trial that it was business as usual when he bought rival apps. He denied he was trying to snuff out competitors.

While testifying in court, the Meta CEO said WhatsApp and Instagram probably wouldn’t have been successful on their own.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg once considered separating Instagram from its parent company due to worries about antitrust litigation, according to an email shown Tuesday on the second day of an antitrust trial alleging Meta illegally monopolized the social media market.